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 Post subject: Bleute paper
PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Just what is it ?

Stanley Gibbons (Q Vic Specialised Catalogue) list each of the first 8 plates as having a variety "on bleute paper" but omit to describe it. The erudite Seymour (Postage Stamps of Gt Britain Vol I) does not mention it as such - but refers to "blued paper", and even going back to the horse's mouth (Bacon's "British Line Engraved Stamps") only yielded a vague reference to a "bluish hand-made paper" used for essays and colour trials.

Modern technology was equally unhelpful a Google search for "bleute paper" produced 1001 chancers trying to sell me reams of printing paper, whereas the word "bleute" on its own produced the same chancers trying to sell me a French-English dictionary.

So, what is this variety of the 1d black ? Does it really exist ? If so, why is it not offered for sale as such by the usual reputable QV dealers? (its only cataloged at about 1.5 to 2 times the ordinary "used" variety so it can;t be that rare) and most importantly, how does one recognise it?

...and yes , I know the acute accent on each "bleute" is missing !


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 Post subject: Re: Bleute paper
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:42 pm 
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If you have a keen interest in the more detailed aspects of QV, especially LE, I suggest you consider joining the Mulready group
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mulready/info.

There was a good recent discussion of bleuté in that group (from 30 August 2018) with over 50 posts that covers your questions (bar your "why is it not offered for sale as such by the usual QV dealers?" - some do).


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 Post subject: Re: Bleute paper
PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:05 pm 
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Thank you Winston, I have taken your advice, and found many are thinking as I was, that, particularly on Ebay, there is a strong element of "the emperor's new clothes" (blue-dyed in this case) in many "bleute " blacks offered for sale

As regards REAL bleute paper

"The bluing sometimes found on the One Penny black is entirely due to slight impurities in the paper. Satisfactory examples may be found on stamps from plates 1 to 6, but the existence of genuine blued examples from later plates is doubtful.

Collectors are warned against artificially blued stamps..."
J.B.Seymour

Although Gibbons list the bleute variety from 1a to 8

Just out of interest, I wandered on to another philatelic site, and came across a discussion on bleute that had confused it with the prussiate of potash story associated with the 1d reds. Lots of disinformation ensued. To be fair , it was a non-specialist site

I am looking for a bleute example from a reputable dealer, and I think the choice of a certificated specimen would be prudent.


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