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 Post subject: Coil joins - help needed
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:00 pm 
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Hi All,
We have been checking on coil joins on KEVIII and KGVI (unfortunately we only have four) and have a query.

From what we can gather the normal coil join looks like the first
illustration with a straight cut/tear? top and bottom. This is a KGVI 4d pair.

However, in the second scan which is a strip of four of the same value the bottom part of the join is an angled cut.

Is this normal? Does it occur regularly every set number of rows?

Any explanation or help greatly appreciated.

As a matter of interest, has anyone 'made' their own joins?

Regards.
Ron and Eunice.


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 2033
PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:05 pm 
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Early coils were made up from sheet stamps with the L margin on - V cuts were made to facilitate removal of top and bottom margins.

These are all normal and would occur when the top or bottom of a sheet was used.

It is, of course, easy to fake these and the similr cuts found on booklet panes.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:00 pm 
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Thanks for that Robin.
We had wondered if it was for the margins.

Such a shame about the fakes but when there is a profit to make someone will take advantage.

Some of the halfv cuts on the booklet panes you mention are pretty costly and how easy is it to spot them?

Presumably the same applies with the punched and cancelled stamps/panes etc.

Buyer beware indeed, it is a minefield out there.

Regards.
Ron and Eunice.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:05 pm 
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Great theme, and a lot of ignorance out there - not to mention high prices for obvious fakes!

Robin (T), can you amplify on the angled cut-join please? Was it standard routine? That is, always found on end pieces? Was it a technique applied to the sideways-delivery coils as well?

Thanks and good luck!

Robin (R)


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 2036
PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:10 pm 
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Common practice for early horizontal Coils and stitched booklet panes
However vertical coils were printed specially ie. not sheets used for the purpose and perforated and split mechanically. No v cut-all joins were straight sided margins


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