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Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:09 pm
by larry rausch
Need identification on four corner penny red postmark. Ireland 186 with a 6 in the triangle.
Thanks Larry
i186 6 150 HH c.JPG

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:48 am
by petrod
Dublin

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 1:49 pm
by larry rausch
Thanks, my original post is not clear, i know it is Dublin. What does the small 6 in the triagle stand for.

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 4:57 pm
by jimw
not absolutely sure, but i think a similar type of postmark was used in the military in India

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 6:03 pm
by mindmapper
Larry,

This 'killer' cancellation was usd on newspapers and wrappers from about 1875. It is referred to as type K4x in 'Irish Diamonds' by Stan Challis & is uncommon (I've never seen one before.) On plate 150 this seems very early use and is a really clean strike. Numbers ranged 1 to 8.

Brian.

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 9:34 pm
by larry rausch
Brian Thank You for the input, I will try to buy a copy of "Irish Diamonds" book. The publisher says it is sold out. Not listed in any of my searchs today. Is it possible to get a scan of the page that mentions this postmark. I will try to figure out a method to sort my 250,000 four corner Penny Red stamps for other matches.
Larry

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:39 pm
by mindmapper
Larry,

Regret the 450-page tome is much too beefy for my lightweight LiDE scanner. It might be a good idea to send the scan to Stan Challis for his records, useful for any future update to the book - I expect he has received a plethora of new info since publication - and he may be able to point to available sources.

Brian.

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 2:54 am
by larry rausch
Brian do you have contact infomation for Stan Challis? It is a good idea to contact Stan.
Larry

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 8:42 am
by mindmapper
Larry,

Stan's email is stan@roskelly.co.uk

He is currently president of the Irish Philatelic Circle - see https://www.irishphil.com/

Brian.

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:10 pm
by larry rausch
Thanks Brian for the help

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2024 6:10 pm
by larry rausch
Thanks Brian for the help

Re: Postmark ID 1864 Penny Red

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:19 pm
by Galveston
larry rausch wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 5:09 pm Need identification on four corner penny red postmark. Ireland 186 with a 6 in the triangle.
Thanks Larryi186 6 150 HH c.JPG
Try this - Hope this helps & is right info. I haven't had a chance to familiarize myself with the formatting yet. Sorry for the blur - its a big book as Brian mentioned and I had a tough time with the scan. Wm
K4x_0001.pdf
K4x Irish Diamonds Challis info
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