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 Post subject: Is this Flaw on N of One catalogued - New Member Help Please :)
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Greetings from a new Canadian member! My name is Shawn K (skilo54)and I am very happy and proud to have recently become a member of this excellent society! I am heavily interested in GB Kings, particularly Downey Heads and Edward VII. I look forward to becoming an active member of the society, learning as much as I can and hopefully contributing to the collective knowledge base along the way!

I have a KGV 1d. with margin control number C12 that I have noticed a flaw and would like to know if it is a catalogued?

I use the SG GB Four Kings catalogue and have not been successful in locating a listing for this variety. Do any other member have a similar variety, or any other information regarding this stamp? Or is this something to forget about?

I look forward to any and all observations, feedback or information! I am also happy to provide alternate scans if need be, please ask!

Thanks in advance for your time, and I appreciate the help!

Kind Regards from Canada!

Skilo54


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1552
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Hi Shawn, pleased to see you on the Discussion Board! I believe your control stamp is from Philatelic Plate 6a (by matching the control to those on plated pieces). I have a few C12 controls, including two from Plate 6a, but cannot find your flaw. That's not to say it isn't a plate flaw that developed later.
Best wishes, Mike


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1553
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:10 pm 
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Hi Mike, I am more than happy to be here!

I appreciate your observations, and have prepared a note based on them, Thank-you for your help so far!

What would you recommend the next logical step for me to take with this stamp? Am I right in thinking that several other copies must be located and identified in order to qualify this as a plate flaw?

The reason for me asking is that I have some others (not all this issue) with substantial flaws, that also cannot be matched with any SG listings? Is there a more specialized catalogue than the one I am using that could be referred to?

I am hopeful another member may catch this thread and have one of their own to show in comparison. That would be great!

Thanks again for your time, I appreciate it!

Shawn


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1554
PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:15 pm 
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Shawn, just one other example of the flaw would strongly suggest it was a plate flaw, and not caused in some other way. Several more would clinch it! There isn't a more specialised catalogue. The flaws which are in the SG Specialised are but a small proportion of the total known (many flaws are small, but potentially useful just the same), and I'm sure there are many more waiting to be discovered.
Ever since The GB Journal began, collectors have submitted such items for publication in the hope that other collectors will confirm their findings. This Discussion Board of course serves the same purpose, but the GBJ probably reaches more people at present, so if you'd like to send me scans of your other flaws (or post them here) I could consider them for a short article in the GBJ.
The way I've approached collecting the plates of the KGV letterpress issues, and this is especially true of the 1d plates which tended to have controls well away from their plate markings, is to collect a quantity of control blocks, say 1d C12. There were at least seven plates at press with C12 (the ones listed in SG plus Philatelic Plate 1), and so you should be able to sort the controls into 7 different types according to their position and characteristics (bearing in mind that some plates were at press with more than one control position). At this point, unless there is a plate marking present, you won't know which plate is which, but you could classify your pieces into Plate A, Plate B, and so on. The next step is to find larger plating pieces, or photocopies/illustrations thereof, with which to match your controls. (The step after that would be to match the control with an official proof sheet to find the Official Plate Number.)
Mike


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1557
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:00 pm 
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Hi Mike,

Thanks for your kind and extremely helpful reply! I appreciate you taking the time to explain how the verification of Plate Flaws works to me! I have my fingers out on a couple other boards and am hopeful another copy turns up sometime!

I would be happy to put together some of the uncatalogued varieties I have found and post the scans here for the consideration of you and my fellow members. I'll start putting it together ASAP, and probably post some in the next few days. I am interested to hear others opinions and observations, and who knows, maybe I have the match to another single example somewhere out there!

After reading your description of plate markings and controls I was inspired to try my hand at plating. I pulled out two Controls that have Plate markings and have posted my identifications below. I am hopeful that I you or another member may either confirm or deny my analysis of these stamps, and I look forward to any and all feedback. Please feel free to let me know if I am right out to lunch if need be! ;)

1/2d. Control N19 - Official Pl. 151, SG Pl. 55

1½d. Control T22-Official Pl. 24a, SG Pl. 20a

Thanks again for your time, I truly appreciate it, and look forward to any and all replies!

Take Care,

Shawn


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 Post subject: Transfer from previous board: original post 1558
PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:05 pm 
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Hi Shawn, a quick note to say I agree that your plate allocations match the descriptions given in SG. I look forward to seeing your varieties. Mike


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